There’s been a seismic shift in the job market since mid-March. More than 38 million people have lost their jobs and applied for unemployment benefits due to the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.

What can these newly-jobless men and women do to get back in the workforce?

WorkingNation’s Editor-in-Chief Ramona Schindelheim joined Harriet Cole, host of Dreamleapers, on WBAI, to talk about the issue. They discussed specific programs that can help upskill the workforce and how that retraining will play an important role in the jobs recovery efforts in the months to come.

You can listen to the entire hour here: Dreamleapers with Harriett Cole

Read more about the impact of COVID-19 on the workforce in our special coverage here.